mucho texto leftist meme
@nyanide @iris pinging iris and not the AThomo expert, for SHAMEanyways the thing with moderation is that clients (and PDSes that just copy-paste the default config, there’s optional env vars for default appviews and labelers to use in proxied Bluesky API calls) are separate from appviews/indexers, and can apply their own labelers (this is how the regional moderation services and age assurance shit works (even doe they’re not labels), as well as the global moderation… mostly) if need be, and use their takedown labels as an obligatory source of moderation
the appview is different, and (as of right now, see additional links although I’m still skeptical on this) can choose its own labeler to force for API consumers (alt clients, tools, etc.), which can lead to taken down content not resolving even if everything else you use in the stack doesn’t abide by that labeler; this is why there’s a huge focus on launching a new appview not using bsky moderation as a default
if you’re using an alt client that ignores the default labeler and you get sussed (on an alt PDS, if you’re on a bsky PDS you (for now apparently?) just get your account taken down in full) you’ll have a partially functional experience that’s basically a busted shadowban, and if you’re using an alt indexer that ignores the default labeler you’ll get a regular experience (theoretically, there’s many asterisks in this that would take a while to get through with side features and UX but the core functionality exists)
the main issue is that almost everyone is subject to that moderation service in some way, due to complications such as no way to change what service you’re telling your PDS to proxy API calls to in base client or most alt clients, majority of people being on bsky infrastructure, no real movement on cheap and easy-to-use hosted management with a quick migration path (you still cannot migrate back to bsky infra which I imagine will filter a lot of people) and a near lack of independent and open PDSes for communities
I’m definitely missing out on much more but this is what’s on the top of my head rn
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